Discussion:
[AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
2009-02-02 06:24:14 UTC
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Hi folks !



Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share my
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who has
been associated with this institution since its inception.



a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after a
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down refractive
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a ball
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the other
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can be
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial non-residential
training.



b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively. But,
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.



c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is polite
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction problems
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large extent,
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements in
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good. Usually,
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred, rejection
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we come
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot of
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.



d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request Reshmi
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a patient
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.







e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family members.
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost its
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into medical
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.



f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money, one
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions in
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class / low
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously to
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to cure
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use computers
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing treatments
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and Oracle
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !



g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying Sreedhareeyam,
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)



Thanks and rgds



RS

Kochi

Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net

098 472 76 126



h)
George Abraham
2009-02-03 05:20:31 UTC
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A good revealing note. Very useful.

George
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To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share my
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who has
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after a
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down refractive
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a ball
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the other
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can be
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial non-residential
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively. But,
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is polite
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction problems
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large extent,
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements in
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good. Usually,
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred, rejection
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we come
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot of
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request Reshmi
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a patient
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family members.
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost its
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into medical
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money, one
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions in
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class / low
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously to
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to cure
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use computers
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing treatments
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and Oracle
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying Sreedhareeyam,
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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Amarjit Powar
2009-02-03 21:44:35 UTC
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Hello George,
I too absolutely agree with Sudhir when he mentions, "What usually happens
is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing in their campus
between the patients that makes one..."
We all know it that RP does not have a treatment in any mode of any medicine
as such. But the matter of the fact is that at times the heart won't
accept what and when the tongue utters the truth. We will want to keep on
searching for alternative therapies -- no matter how comical the course of
treatment may be. It's a common everyday practice in virtually every corner
of India to go to see "babas" for seeking their blessings for restoration of
eyesights. More often than not, we cling onto old-age myths. But the
cures/miracles , if any takes place, are mere coincedences. What do other
listers think about my views?
Amarjit

----- Original Message -----
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To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
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From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share my
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who has
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after a
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down refractive
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a ball
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the other
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can be
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial non-residential
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively. But,
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is polite
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction problems
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large extent,
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements in
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good. Usually,
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred, rejection
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we come
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot of
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request Reshmi
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a patient
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family members.
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost its
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into medical
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money, one
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions in
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class / low
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously to
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to cure
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use computers
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing treatments
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and Oracle
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying Sreedhareeyam,
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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Vamshi. G
2009-02-04 13:56:22 UTC
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Hi subramani sir

One lady asked me to look at the sun through a mixture of ravva and
ghee for forty five days.
Her confidence was such that I was permitted to slap her with a
slipper if RP didn't get cured within that period.
I didn't want to do that as she was too old to be doing that and
hence didn't try that.
--
Vamshi. G
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Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
E-mail: george at eyeway.org
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share my
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who has
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after a
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down refractive
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a ball
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the other
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can be
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial non-residential
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively. But,
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is polite
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction problems
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large extent,
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements in
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good. Usually,
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred, rejection
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we come
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot of
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request Reshmi
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a patient
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family members.
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost its
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into medical
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money, one
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions in
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class / low
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously to
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to cure
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use computers
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing treatments
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and Oracle
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying Sreedhareeyam,
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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Subramani L
2009-02-04 08:54:05 UTC
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No one can go as comical as one of my "alternative therapist" was: he
asked me to smel a particular flower every morning. Upon my mother's
compulsion I did until I felt I would end up getting allergy of some
sort and started to push the flowers silently under the kitchen sink.

Subramani


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Powar
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:15 AM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.

Hello George,
I too absolutely agree with Sudhir when he mentions, "What usually
happens
is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing in their campus

between the patients that makes one..."
We all know it that RP does not have a treatment in any mode of any
medicine
as such. But the matter of the fact is that at times the heart won't
accept what and when the tongue utters the truth. We will want to keep
on
searching for alternative therapies -- no matter how comical the course
of
treatment may be. It's a common everyday practice in virtually every
corner
of India to go to see "babas" for seeking their blessings for
restoration of
eyesights. More often than not, we cling onto old-age myths. But the
cures/miracles , if any takes place, are mere coincedences. What do
other
listers think about my views?
Amarjit

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Abraham" <george at eyeway.org>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
E-mail: george at eyeway.org
Website: www.eyeway.org
Eyeway Help Desk: +91 11 46070380
http://www.giveindia.org/give/pledgepage/thescorefoundation
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share
my
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who
has
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after
a
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down
refractive
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a
ball
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the
other
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can
be
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial
non-residential
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively.
But,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is
polite
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction
problems
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large
extent,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes
existing
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good.
Usually,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred,
rejection
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we
come
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot
of
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request
Reshmi
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a
patient
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family
members.
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost
its
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into
medical
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money,
one
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class /
low
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously
to
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to
cure
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use
computers
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing
treatments
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and
Oracle
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying
Sreedhareeyam,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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Amarjit Powar
2009-02-05 03:51:41 UTC
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Well, while living in Zambia, Africa, where my Optic Atrophy was diagnosed
by an East Indian doctor who was serving in Zambia as an expatriate Chief
cconsultant Opthamologist in those days, from the prestigious All India
Institute for Medical Sciences in New-Delhi, Dr. Krishan Lall, I was asked
to look at the sun for good 15 minutes through a pin-hole pricked through a
dark green leaf plucked every morning from any tree. -- just as long as it
was a dark green leaf. He had said it in no uncertain terms that the
ongoing medical research had proven that
Chlorophyll, any of a group of green pigments found on photosynthetic
organisms, as a breakthrough treatment to regenerate degenerating nerve
cells. He had said he had diagnosed the sister of a famous East Indian
cricket star in the early 70's, whose name has now skipped my memory, with
the same condition as mine and prescribed the same remedy. Now, wasn't that
quackery? (Broad Smiles)

But you see, in your case, you were sniffing flowers in the morning --
which is a technique used in aroma therapy -- and is believed to have a
therapeutic effect on the soul and mind.
Amarjit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Subramani L
No one can go as comical as one of my "alternative therapist" was: he
asked me to smel a particular flower every morning. Upon my mother's
compulsion I did until I felt I would end up getting allergy of some
sort and started to push the flowers silently under the kitchen sink.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:15 AM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Hello George,
I too absolutely agree with Sudhir when he mentions, "What usually
happens
is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing in their campus
between the patients that makes one..."
We all know it that RP does not have a treatment in any mode of any
medicine
as such. But the matter of the fact is that at times the heart won't
accept what and when the tongue utters the truth. We will want to keep
on
searching for alternative therapies -- no matter how comical the course
of
treatment may be. It's a common everyday practice in virtually every
corner
of India to go to see "babas" for seeking their blessings for
restoration of
eyesights. More often than not, we cling onto old-age myths. But the
cures/miracles , if any takes place, are mere coincedences. What do
other
listers think about my views?
Amarjit
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Abraham" <george at eyeway.org>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
E-mail: george at eyeway.org
Website: www.eyeway.org
Eyeway Help Desk: +91 11 46070380
http://www.giveindia.org/give/pledgepage/thescorefoundation
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share
my
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who
has
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after
a
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down
refractive
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a
ball
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the
other
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can
be
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial
non-residential
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively.
But,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is
polite
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction
problems
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large
extent,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes
existing
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good.
Usually,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred,
rejection
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we
come
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot
of
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request
Reshmi
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a
patient
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family
members.
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost
its
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into
medical
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money,
one
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class /
low
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously
to
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to
cure
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use
computers
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing
treatments
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and
Oracle
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying
Sreedhareeyam,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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niranjanraj urs
2009-02-05 07:13:56 UTC
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Dear Friends,
It is Mr R. Sudhir who has given new hope and breathed new life in me
in 2004 by making me aware of assistive technologies.
As regards Aurvedic treatment, I have taken atleast 2to 3 rounds of
treatmentfrom adoctor in the Govt College at Thiruvananthapuram Dr
Santha Kumari. She had very correctly told far back in 1994, when I
started observing a sudden fall in my eye sight that Aurvedic
treatment will not cure my disease, but could slow down the rate of
degeneration of retina. I honestly say that those rounds of treatment
helped a lot in coming out of my gloom and deressive state of mind
rejuvinate my body, improve my general health and enabled to to open
my eyes in bright light without any irritation. No doubt, I have lost
my central vision now, but can still distinguish between light and
shade even after 14 years of me first noticing the fall in my eye
sight in 1994.
My intention in writing this piece is to make the needy aware of the
availability of treatment in govt hospitals also, where a middle class
person can bear the expenses.Treatment of R P is not confined to
treating the disease, it extends to cover the overall health and more
so of the health of the mind of the patient.
Niranjan.B
Post by Amarjit Powar
Well, while living in Zambia, Africa, where my Optic Atrophy was diagnosed
by an East Indian doctor who was serving in Zambia as an expatriate Chief
cconsultant Opthamologist in those days, from the prestigious All India
Institute for Medical Sciences in New-Delhi, Dr. Krishan Lall, I was asked
to look at the sun for good 15 minutes through a pin-hole pricked through a
dark green leaf plucked every morning from any tree. -- just as long as it
was a dark green leaf. He had said it in no uncertain terms that the
ongoing medical research had proven that
Chlorophyll, any of a group of green pigments found on photosynthetic
organisms, as a breakthrough treatment to regenerate degenerating nerve
cells. He had said he had diagnosed the sister of a famous East Indian
cricket star in the early 70's, whose name has now skipped my memory, with
the same condition as mine and prescribed the same remedy. Now, wasn't that
quackery? (Broad Smiles)
But you see, in your case, you were sniffing flowers in the morning --
which is a technique used in aroma therapy -- and is believed to have a
therapeutic effect on the soul and mind.
Amarjit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Subramani L" <lsubramani at deccanherald.co.in>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Subramani L
No one can go as comical as one of my "alternative therapist" was: he
asked me to smel a particular flower every morning. Upon my mother's
compulsion I did until I felt I would end up getting allergy of some
sort and started to push the flowers silently under the kitchen sink.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:15 AM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Hello George,
I too absolutely agree with Sudhir when he mentions, "What usually
happens
is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing in their campus
between the patients that makes one..."
We all know it that RP does not have a treatment in any mode of any
medicine
as such. But the matter of the fact is that at times the heart won't
accept what and when the tongue utters the truth. We will want to keep
on
searching for alternative therapies -- no matter how comical the course
of
treatment may be. It's a common everyday practice in virtually every
corner
of India to go to see "babas" for seeking their blessings for
restoration of
eyesights. More often than not, we cling onto old-age myths. But the
cures/miracles , if any takes place, are mere coincedences. What do
other
listers think about my views?
Amarjit
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Abraham" <george at eyeway.org>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
E-mail: george at eyeway.org
Website: www.eyeway.org
Eyeway Help Desk: +91 11 46070380
http://www.giveindia.org/give/pledgepage/thescorefoundation
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share
my
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who
has
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after
a
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down
refractive
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a
ball
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the
other
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can
be
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial
non-residential
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively.
But,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is
polite
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction
problems
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large
extent,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes
existing
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good.
Usually,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred,
rejection
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we
come
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot
of
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request
Reshmi
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a
patient
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family
members.
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost
its
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into
medical
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money,
one
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class /
low
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously
to
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to
cure
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use
computers
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing
treatments
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and
Oracle
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying
Sreedhareeyam,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
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Subramani L
2009-02-09 06:57:38 UTC
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Having responded to this mail some days back, I had a second thought.
Yes, RP has no known cure; yes many of us (more so our parents and
family) search desperately for a cure that doesn't exist, but my dear
friends, please don't under-estimate the power of self belief and the
urge to see again. I am saying this because some of you have mentioned
(it's hard to say in what context) that people feel healed because of
their "belief". Though most alternative therapists do nothing more than
giving false hopes, it is our responsibility to choose a credible system
of medicine (mostly traditional) and work with it. I am sure your belief
and positive thoughts and suggestions would provide you the cure you are
seeking for. Don't under-estimate your mind's eability to cure itself.
Psychologists have proved that the mind has the ability to shape your
life experiences and the fact is, we gradually start to accept our
blindness as a certainty that can't be changed. I feel this can be
changed and we need to change this thought. This may sound stupid, but
this is just a change of your thought process and what's wrong in doing
it? This is also a way of mentally preparing yourself for a cure rather
than expecting an outsider --a doctor or an alternative therapist-- to
provide the cure for you.

Subramani

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:15 AM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.

Hello George,
I too absolutely agree with Sudhir when he mentions, "What usually
happens
is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing in their campus

between the patients that makes one..."
We all know it that RP does not have a treatment in any mode of any
medicine
as such. But the matter of the fact is that at times the heart won't
accept what and when the tongue utters the truth. We will want to keep
on
searching for alternative therapies -- no matter how comical the course
of
treatment may be. It's a common everyday practice in virtually every
corner
of India to go to see "babas" for seeking their blessings for
restoration of
eyesights. More often than not, we cling onto old-age myths. But the
cures/miracles , if any takes place, are mere coincedences. What do
other
listers think about my views?
Amarjit

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Abraham" <george at eyeway.org>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
E-mail: george at eyeway.org
Website: www.eyeway.org
Eyeway Help Desk: +91 11 46070380
http://www.giveindia.org/give/pledgepage/thescorefoundation
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share
my
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who
has
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after
a
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down
refractive
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a
ball
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the
other
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can
be
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial
non-residential
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively.
But,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is
polite
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction
problems
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large
extent,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes
existing
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good.
Usually,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred,
rejection
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we
come
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot
of
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request
Reshmi
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a
patient
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family
members.
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost
its
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into
medical
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money,
one
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class /
low
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously
to
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to
cure
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use
computers
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing
treatments
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and
Oracle
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying
Sreedhareeyam,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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Reshmi M
2009-02-13 05:04:37 UTC
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Dear Folks,

Due to technical issues I could asscess the mail only today, and so
sorry for the long delayed response.

Being a visually challenged ayurvedic Doctor I would like to share
some points in [Salakya thantra] one of the eight limbs of Ayurveda
dealing with ENT diseases by "Susruthacharya" THE FATHER OF SURGERY

The signs and symptoms, prognosis, and treatment aspect of many
ratinal diseases like colour blindness, day blindness, night blindness
etc have been enshrimped in the classics and coming to the treatment
aspect Achary narrates many of them are incurable but the scientific
studies and clinical researches from the Department of Salakya thantra
from Ayurvedic medical colleges reveals that various ayurvedic
treatments like THARPANAM, DHARA, NASYAM ETC have been able to arrest
progressive myopia, astigmatism, and the period of deteoration of
degenerative eye diseases has been prolonged if treated properly from
the initial stage,but not completely cured.

But as you know the Indian system of medicine treats not just the
disease but the diseased as a whole certainly it will enable one to
eliminate his associated complaints and improve the general health and
ultimately heals soul, mind and body. For further cories feel free to
email to info at jeevaniyam.com
Or email to drreshmipramod at gmail.com
Or contact me in my mobile no. 9961298312

9447639958 regards,

Dr. Reshmi Pramod
Post by Subramani L
Having responded to this mail some days back, I had a second thought.
Yes, RP has no known cure; yes many of us (more so our parents and
family) search desperately for a cure that doesn't exist, but my dear
friends, please don't under-estimate the power of self belief and the
urge to see again. I am saying this because some of you have mentioned
(it's hard to say in what context) that people feel healed because of
their "belief". Though most alternative therapists do nothing more than
giving false hopes, it is our responsibility to choose a credible system
of medicine (mostly traditional) and work with it. I am sure your belief
and positive thoughts and suggestions would provide you the cure you are
seeking for. Don't under-estimate your mind's eability to cure itself.
Psychologists have proved that the mind has the ability to shape your
life experiences and the fact is, we gradually start to accept our
blindness as a certainty that can't be changed. I feel this can be
changed and we need to change this thought. This may sound stupid, but
this is just a change of your thought process and what's wrong in doing
it? This is also a way of mentally preparing yourself for a cure rather
than expecting an outsider --a doctor or an alternative therapist-- to
provide the cure for you.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-bounces at accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amarjit
Powar
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:15 AM
To: accessindia at accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Hello George,
I too absolutely agree with Sudhir when he mentions, "What usually
happens
is that one is influenced by the positive vibes existing in their campus
between the patients that makes one..."
We all know it that RP does not have a treatment in any mode of any
medicine
as such. But the matter of the fact is that at times the heart won't
accept what and when the tongue utters the truth. We will want to keep
on
searching for alternative therapies -- no matter how comical the course
of
treatment may be. It's a common everyday practice in virtually every
corner
of India to go to see "babas" for seeking their blessings for
restoration of
eyesights. More often than not, we cling onto old-age myths. But the
cures/miracles , if any takes place, are mere coincedences. What do
other
listers think about my views?
Amarjit
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Abraham" <george at eyeway.org>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by George Abraham
A good revealing note. Very useful.
George
George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
Y-70, Lower Ground Floor,
Hauz Khas,
New Delhi 110016
India
Ph:+91 11 26852581, +91 11 26852559
Fax:+91 11 26852559
Mobile: +91 9810934040
E-mail: george at eyeway.org
Website: www.eyeway.org
Eyeway Help Desk: +91 11 46070380
http://www.giveindia.org/give/pledgepage/thescorefoundation
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sudhir R (NeSTIT)" <sudhir.r at nestgroup.net>
To: <accessindia at accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: [AI] Sreedhareeyam & Retinitis Pigmentosa.
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Hi folks !
Been following the thread on Sreedhareeyam and thought I should share
my
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
experiences and observations, being a RP patient myself and one who
has
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
been associated with this institution since its inception.
a) Sreedhareeyam has good treatments for eye disorders like
hyper-myopia, astigmatism, etc. I have seen radical improvements in
patients who are able to reduce the power of their eye glasses after
a
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
few bouts of in-patient treatments. But, here I should also mention
that the eye exercises prescribed by the Arvind Institute for Perfect
Sight, Thiruvananthapuram are equally good in bringing down
refractive
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
disorders. They hold camps for 2 weeks where they teach simple eye
exercises designed to strengthen eye muscles and thus correct the
curvature of the eye lens. Exercises include palming, following a
ball
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
as it bounces from one hand to the ground and catching it with the
other
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
hand, staring at the sun with eyes closed, staring at darkness and a
lighted candle alternately etc. This hardly costs anything and can
be
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
continued in the privacy of one's home after the initial
non-residential
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
training.
b) Retinitis Pigmentosa is a family of diseases with varying
manifestations in different patients. I have seen patients for whom
only the lateral vision is getting affected and they have no problem
reading or recognizing people since their central vision acuity is
maintained, though the field of vision narrows down progressively.
But,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
for a lot of people including me, RP is also accompanied by macular
degeneration and optic atrophy and here there is very little that one
can do.
c) ) Sreedhareeyam's cure for RP is a bit hyped, if one is
polite
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
about it. Usually, RP is also associated with high refraction
problems
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
like myopia, astigmatism etc and these are addressed to a large
extent,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
especially in younger patients, but, this is not due to improvements
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
retinual attenuation or pigmentation, the root causes of RP. What
usually happens is that one is influenced by the positive vibes
existing
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
in their campus between the patients that makes one feel good.
Usually,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
patients who reach Sreedhareeyam are facing vision loss and are
undergoing the associated trauma of depression, self-hatred,
rejection
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
from mainstream society or self-withdrawal. In Sreedhareeyam, we
come
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
across people of our own kind and it consoles us tremendously. Then,
there are the unconfirmed stories of how some guy or gal has been
"cured" by the treatment which instills hopes in us. Sadly, as a lot
of
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
ex-patients have vouched for in AI, these hopes turn into
disillusionments quite fast.
d) My friend, Dr Reshmi Pramod, an Ayurvedic doctor herself and
now visually challenged, tells me that Susrutha (Acharya of Ayurveda)
himself says diseases of the Retina cannot be cured. I request
Reshmi
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
to comment further on this, especially since she herself was a
patient
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of Sreedhareeyam for multiple bouts.
e) The treatments at Sreedhareeyam has become very costly over
the years. In 1999, when they started off, it was a very small,
intimate affair where there was excellent interaction between the
limited patients, therapists and the doctors and their family
members.
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Progressively, as it grew from the small Illam (traditional Kerala
House) to the complex of modern buildings and cottages, it has lost
its
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
intimate character and is today a commercial entity, mainly into
medical
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
tourism, targeting rich NRIs and foreigners.
f) In conclusion, if one has the luxury of time and money,
one
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
can keep on experimenting with Sreedhareeyam and similar institutions
in
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
Kerala (who also claim cures for RP). I feel bad for middle class /
low
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
income group parents of blind / low vision kids who trek religiously
to
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
this place every 3/6/12 months and spend time and money trying to
cure
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
blindness or reverse deterioration. Wherever possible, our self-help
group in Kerala reaches out to such patients and reach them the
redeeming message of assistive technologies and urge them to continue
their studies / professions using computers. Prasanna Kumar, Reshmi,
Renuka and countless others from Kerala have been able to use
computers
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead of running after miracle cures and are productively engaged
today. I myself often rue the 10 years I wasted in pursuing
treatments
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
of all genres (homeo, naturopathy, suddha, unani, ayurveda at
Sreedhareeyam and at other places) and wish I had learnt Java and
Oracle
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
instead with all that time, money and residual vision. (smile) At
least, that would have contributed better to my new career (started
after losing sight and then having to quit a public sector company
through a voluntary retirement) as a marketing manager in a software
company !
g) I Do not wish to discourage anybody from trying
Sreedhareeyam,
Post by George Abraham
Post by Sudhir R (NeSTIT)
but, please note that all that glitters is not gold. (smile)
Thanks and rgds
RS
Kochi
Sudhir.r at nestgroup.net
098 472 76 126
h)
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